Patches from Blue Mesa. (29.11.99) #1 is a clean patch which involves an OD. The OD gives the patch boldness which most clean tones can lack in a live situation. These particular patches don't contain TB but don't let that stop you from trying them before you judge them. I'll send the TB patches my next post. Thanks. EFFECT LINEUP: CM>OD>4B+DL>RV (note DL is parrallel) CM SETTINGS: ATK=FAST REL=MEDIUM SUS=3 LEVEL=40 NG=1 OUT =95 OD SETTINGS: LR=0.2 PD=3 CLIP= 99 LEVEL=85% OUT =80 4B SETTINGS: BAND 1 FREQ=160 HZ BW= 1/1 GAIN= -3 BAND 2 FREQ=700HZ BW=1/1 GAIN= -3 BAND 3 FREQ=2.5 KHZ BW=1/1 GAIN= -9 BAND 4 NOT USED FOR ANYTHING DL SETTINGS TY =STEREO LD=250MS LF=5% RD=200MS RF=5% TS=OFF MX-+35 RV SETTINGS TY=PLATE SZ=LARGE PD=10MS TM=2.0S DP=OFF MX=18% OPTIONAL CHORUS: SETTINGS ARE: ADD THE CH IN PARRALLEL RT=1.0 DP=13% DLY=10.0 MS FB=0 MX=+75 MY GLOBAL PRE IS 96 LOW, MID HI ALL 0 OUT IS 35 GLOBAL CNTRL #1 PRAM = OVERDRV c#7 CHANNEL-RCV SCALE = +15 I control the volume here (cc pedal) because I dislike the designated global volume control. It robs headroom from the TF. That's the first patch. Now copy it to another location and edit it from there for the next because the next patch is the same exept for the following changes: AGAIN, CHORUS OPTIONAL, SAME CH SETTINGS OD PD=5 LEVEL = 77% 4B CHANGES ARE: BAND I GAIN IS -7 BAND 3 GAIN IS -3 BAND 4 IS ACTIVATED FREQ=4.5 KHZ GAIN IS -2 all else remains the same as #1 Now copy this new one and change the following settings and try this one with and without CH settings. EFFECTS LINEUP IS: CM>DS>4B> (DS replaces OD) DL & RV SETTINGS ARE THE SAME. CM settings are the same DS SETTINGS: DR=50 PS=23 FAT=35 ED=0 BODY=15 SHIFT =300HZ RES=0.1 4B CHANGES BAND 1 GAIN= -9 BAND 3 GAIN = -3 global's are all the same except PRAM = DISTN SCALE = + 2 Try these. These are my cleaner or medium drives. They may require a little EQ ing because of our different setups but they work well.